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Bob, Thank you for your radio program! I just saw a powerful film called “Cowspiracy: The Sustainability Secret,” which addresses and documents exactly what you are discussing here about climate change! The vegan filmmakers (Kip Anderson, Keegan Kuhn) might make good guests for your program. Take care!

Hi, Great station! I was just wondering why wasn’t Prof. Horne asked wether he was vegan… Thanks, Adam

I don’t know why anyone should be surprised by HSUS “Hoofin it” event. HSUS has been leading up to an event like this for a long time. HSUS has been promoting “happy animal exploitation” and profiting from “happy animal products” for years now. They are just a PR branch of the animal use industry. I’m often astounded that any vegan would promote HSUS or support them, but sadly, many do.

It might be helpful to have some “rules of engagement” when the guests are expected to have such strong opinions. That’s up to you, Bob, to be a good moderator. Otherwise, you end up with “talkover” radio. Then, step back and let them at it…..ONE AT A TIME !!! Otherwise, a great show.

Its incredible where your thoughts take you when you don’t understand the point being made. FO was on the BBC to talk about sport – NOT veganism. The fact that she broke world records in the marathon was why she was on there & she is being honest when she says that veganism is not for all. Look around you & open your eyes – 1% are vegan? – 2% if you are lucky – Face it – most people just don’t give a toss about animal cruelty or the environment – or even themselves – listen “THEY DON’T CARE” – they will never go vegan. FO is reaching a mainstream audience – an audience who will switch off to being confronted with veganism as Sonja says above, but ‘some’ listening will be interested and that vegan seed or thought might just get planted so that in time the 1-2% becomes 3-5%. GFL approach works with “some” people, but not many (see 1% above) – there are other approaches, but those exploring them do not pillory those adopting their own approaches – it is a pity this doesn’t seem to work the other way – if only those determined to rip into fellow vegans spent their time & effort ripping into the CEO of McDonalds…

PS Sonia – I would urge you to read FO’s statement in the matter as what she actually said makes a whole lot of sense 🙂

We should always present the positive truth about veganism which is that it is a healthy, compassionate lifestyle that is certainly “for everyone”. Tim Barford more or less conceded that he was mistaken in what he said previously so don’t crucify the guy. He’s achieved so much in promoting veganism and, in challenging him, one should do so respectfully with that in mind. The same with Fiona Oakes – she’s a stunning ambassador who has run through deserts and ice fields to showcase vegan power. We all say things sometimes that we may later prefer to change and I suspect that’s the case here. Gary Francione makes lots of good points but if he could tone down the confrontational and argumentative attitude, he would be ten times more effective in changing hearts and minds.

I’m not a vegan. I am just starting out learning about being vegan and having a plant strong diet. I could really understand both guests pov but I have to say listening to that guy interrupting the other guy over and over just because he couldn’t stand the other guys pov was was a real turn off for me. Somehow his mother failed in teaching him to respect people of differing viewpoints and beliefs even when you are passionate about your own. I taught mine that everyone gets a turn with the “speaking stick” LOL

I am a biologist and definitely animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation, desertification, habitat destruction, methane production. Meat eaters are killing this planet so AGREE ALL THE WAY WITH YOU. Please send me more info, i am following from Mexico City

While I agree that the comment that lady made on the BBC is indeed a bit strange, I’m living proof that their new approach to “recruiting” new vegans does indeed work. Here in Austria and Germany Attila Hildmann is on the front of this movement of: I’m strict concerning veganism myself, but you don’t need to be, just try this fun recipes in my appealing looking cookbook. Everything else like allowing yourself to open your eyes to what we are doing to the animals just follows naturally. You need to pick the people up at the point at which they are right now. If you confront them with the whole truth at once you’re just going to push them away. Something I also noticed that you Bob are doing at the beginning of your podcast. If I weren’t vegan I probably would have turned your program off after a few minutes.

Animals should not die for US….or ever be torched EVER .!!!

Like listening to a head-on train crash in slow motion regarding Tim Barford… wow.

Gary is right. If people don’t understand the fundamentals, how can they stop using animals? If you give an inch, a human takes a mile. Basic psychology is that you set high standards to get HIGH RESULTS. Telling people that veganism, or not making slaves of other creatures, isn’t for everyone, is absolutely asinine.

Tim is just a corporate guy, putting a corporate spin on veganism. Shameful and disgusting.

TB is clearly out of his league. He comes across as ill-informed, ill-prepared, hugely misguided, and incapable of having an intelligent and respectful conversation. He makes me ashamed of a certain sector of the UK’s vegans (including the current manifestation of the UK Vegan Society). TB should not be any kind of public ambassador for veganism. He clearly likes the sound of his own voice and allows words to come out of his mouth before he’s put any real thought to what he’s saying, which is hugely dangerous to our cause (much like FO’s comments). I don’t doubt that he’s passionate about veganism but he’s not fit to have a high-profile position in its promotion.

My friend is vegan and so am I. And when he suggested to listen to your radio which I am it’s like this is sweet a vegan radio. I was wondering if ppl can support the Multiple Sclerosis company by donating any money you wish to give the society the reason is I am vegan and I have MS. And I want the MS society around the world to find a cure for us. Please and thank you. The medication I am getting is not vegan. And why can’t doctors gives us vegan meds instead of non vegan meds and making us more sicker. In Canada where I live it sucks they ban vegan books. Vegan radio so I have to listen to your radio online. And they even banned certain vegans food here too which really sucks for me. And travelling to certain countries too is very hard to find vegan restaurants too.

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I really enjoyed your guest Sherry Colb 🙂 Thanks

Bob, I enjoy these segments with Francione. Thanks for giving him the airtime. This particular segment about “pets” and domestication is very important and seldom heard.

I thought some excellent points were discussed.
thanks ,Linda

I agree 100 percent with everything that Karen Davis wrote about UPC’s commitment to veganism [re
May 4 show]. I have been a vegan and animal rights activist for over 25 years and am proud that one of my many accomplishments is having been invited to be on the board for UPC, which I accepted, with honor. I would NOT associate my name and my long-time reputation as a vegan activist with any person or organization that does NOT first and foremost promote veganism, everywhere, all the time, no matter what, which UPC always has and does and will continue to do. To take time on a vegan radio show to accuse UPC of being “welfarist” because an action or two over decades does not fit perfectly into a personal list of criteria of what it takes to be a “vegan abolitionist” is a good example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. UPC is a powerful voice for veganism. Period. And so am I.

Thank you for inviting Sherry Colb and Sandra Higgins on your show on May 4, 2014, which happened to be International Respect for Chickens Day, an annual project of United Poultry Concerns since 2005. I am glad that Sandra noted in her interview that her report on the cruelty of “enriched” cages for laying hens is on the United Poultry Concerns website. Because many listeners may not have the background, let it be noted that United Poultry Concerns joined with the Humane Farming Association in 2012-2013 as the LEADING national organizations in the U.S. to publicly oppose proposed federal legislation that would have effectively enshrined “enriched” cages for egg-laying hens in the United States. We were very vocal in our opposition and the reasons why. For information, please see our Screaming Hen webpage http://www.upc-online.org/scream which includes Sandra Higgins’ report.

Second, it is incorrect and unjust to paint United Poultry Concerns as a sellout, “welfare” organization, as Gary Francione spent part of his interview time doing on the show, simply because United Poultry Concerns, a 100% pro-vegan, animal rights organization, has tried to help birds in institutionalized abuse conditions from which they will never escape, except through death. UPC has NEVER promoted consumption of animal products under ANY conditions. It is important for animal advocates to distinguish between organizations that are telling consumers it is ethically acceptable for them to eat “humanely-raised animal products” and organizations, such as United Poultry Concerns, that promote a Give a Cluck-Go Vegan diet exclusively, and nothing less, while meanwhile trying to help suffering birds in the here and now to whom we believe we have an obligation.

Karen Davis, PhD, president of United Poultry Concerns, was a featured speaker, in 2013. on Will Tuttle’s Veganpalooza. UPC has led the way in urging animal activists “Beyond the Rhetoric of Apology to Affirmative Action for Animals and Animal Rights.” This and more can be read on our Effective Activism webpage at http://www.upc-online.org/activism.

I have an animal sanctuary in Ireland myself called Back into daylight animal sanctuary.I agree with Sandra these chickens hens suffer terribly with the diseases caused by being in cages in terrible conditions,it is hell on earth for them.WE have hens out of these cages on our sanctuary.They have every disease you could think of for a hen to have in western Europe.You would want to be a vet and a veterinary surgeon and a miracle worker to be able to look after them in any good meaningful way.Each one of them is so beautiful and so wanting to live another day.They enjoy being free so much just to be able to lie in the sun and walk about.Please go Vegan for the animals and think of their pain day after day.People need to wake up to eating brutally murdered animals and eating death and disease all these animals suffer horribly in the human food chain.People wake up to this fact and admit their suffering and stop lying to yourself.GO VEGAN.

Bob,

I would like you to say who funded the studies which you quote. I’m with you 110%, but I would like to know that the study is not just BIG MEATS way to get people to not eat local and keep on buying the national brands of the big killers. You know, “follow the money”

I’M inspired by your shows!!

What do you think, Bob??.

Thomas……….Vancouver, WA

Please, if you can, please donate to raise funds to vet Virginia’s dogs.

Thank you.
http://www.petcaring.com/animal-rescue/the-three-chihuahua-s-fund-nevada-county-paws/37921

Great speech, Bob, regarding Earth Day.

Hi Bob,

remember me joanna, from las vegas, we spoke about 3 weeks ago about my story making animal liberation ideas. i just wanted to say i love your show, your energy, your play on words, your guests, what a great thing you got going here. i am learning alot too. as this is the first show i have listened to, i have a lot of catching up to do to listen to all your archives. i would love to have another phone chat soon. i am now a bob linden radio listener fan.

This was such a great episode. So sad that he is no longer with us. Just picked up one of his books after listening to this.

Bob – you were born to do this show! I think you could have a second career as a rapper. Good to here from Mike Weinberg on an important perspective.

I would like to place a add on your website?
who do I contact.
Thank You
BE HAPPY, BE VEGAN
Cynthia Lingg

Hello,

I;m an old friend of Virgina’s since we bonded at the March for the animals in 1996. Didn’t see a lot of eachother, but always kept in touch. Been about a year since we last shared a meal. I’m shocked. She’s younger than I. What happened? An accident? An illnes? I’m so sorry she’s gone. Sorry to I can’t take the dogs since I have two seniors now and 1 is special needs.

Please tell me what happened.

For the Animals,

Lynn Sunday

They are with Virginia’s neighbor, Holly, who can be reached at 510-322-1110 or hraboli@hotmail.com. Holly says: I’m looking forward to talking to interested people, and happy to host them here for a “get acquainted” visit..

Thank you so much for your energy and the way you speak the truth.oh and I have a copy of the world peace diet and it is simply amazing.sad that most still eat like flesh eating zombies kissing the bloody lips of Ronald McDonald..please don’t stop what your doing.

Dear Bob, I would like to help to find homes for Virginia’s pups. You were going to post photos?

Hi Bob!
I heard you on KPFA this morning.
Great show.
Where did you post the pics of Virginia’s dogs?
I want to promote on my animal network.
For the Animals
Karin

Some lights came on listening to the broadcast.it seems like the pharma companies and the medical and health officials new about the bad health from animal products , kept quiet and have been cashing in all these years.but there is a new threat on thehorizon with GMO vegan foods.if they are disease causing ,they will still be making billions of dollars.thanks to voices like yours, a separation line is naturally forming between the two movements “.will the real vegan advocates please stand up”.veganism is about the highest expression of love which is compassion, and so is anti rapism and anti slaveism and anti sexism and anti child Laborism and any antiabuseism.

Mr. Friedman missed a most important evolutionary event in the development of the human brain – the harnessing of the power of fire. He may want to read the fascinating and informative book Catching Fire: How Cooking Made Us Human by Richard Wrangham who was recently a featured speaker at one of Dr. John McDougall’s programs in Santa Rosa.

I was trying to find some information about Jerry Friedman and the research he does. Can you send me some information.

I enjoyed the interview you had with him and was very interested in the things he was saying.

I tried googling his name, his name in conjunction with brain, and with size matters, but nothing came up.

Still only half the program on android .

Hi Bob,
Good to connect with you again! Oh so happy that you are keeping people on their toes and being a big thorn in their butts!

MFA just hired”good ole boy” Nick Cooney.

When is the Worldfest in LA?

I will be attending the FARM AR conference in LA in July, any chance you will speak there?

Love your gumption Bob!
Cindy<3

Gary Francione had wise thoughts, and he spoke courageously and articulately.

Thanks Bob for a great show. Send my support to Gary Francione. He’s spot on.

Thank you Mr. X for the work you do. Without you, most of us would not know how it feels to be an earthling, who is objectified for the sake of its fellow earthling-human-protagonist of patriarchy. Protagonists of patriarchy are unfair, unjust, cruel, violent and pervert because they divide the earthlings in superior and inferior ones, a crime not only against humanity but against all earthlings. All earthlings are born to live and therefore are all equal.
Without Mr. X, the German concentration camps during WWII would have been undisclosed.
Mr. X, your courage is my inspiration.

thanks for opening our eyes to read between the lines.discrimination in moral issues is valueable at times like these.it has been said that the road to hell is full of good intentions.so the road to peace is simple and clear:veganism and advocating veganism to abolish the use of non human beings.when the use of animals is abolished then we can talk about wellfare.until that day wellfarist so-caaled actions are meaningless.it is the reverse of zenos paradox going fast towards a minus whole.

This destruction of the sea lion colony above La Jolla Cove would not have happened if Bryan Pease had not been recruited to write the lawsuit and to “contain” the seal protection activists. Money talks.

when do the recorded shows get posted? Im looking in particular for 1/12

thanks for all you do xo

Thank you so much for bringing up the topic of vegan children having to eat at school. Thank you for acknowledging the voice of a vegan child. I will share the show of the 29th of December 2013 with as many earthling as I can. I admire your courage to speak up for the victims of patriarchy.

i do not know why the word pythagorean was changed to vegetarian and vegan but it was a good change because pythagorian sounded like belonging to a cult.vegan as a word by itself or in essence is ultimate freedom.plant based leaves room for including animal products that suits some people to use.and others think they will be stigmatized by the word vegan.if people only realized the morality and ethics of the issue all this word play would be seen as unessential.

Great show! Excellent observations about HSUS, and I very much enjoyed hearing you speak with Gary Francione.

Agreed: “welfare” is meaningless within animal rights, so don’t only go vegan, go “abolitionist” vegan!

the same story with respect to the devaluation of nonhuman animals is told with the posessed man who jesus supposedly casted the evil out to innocent pigs near by.a being with his power and respect for all creatures could not have done this, but instead used rocks or anything innanimate to deposit these in.another perversion of the truth by the church to devalue non human beings.

Gary Francione,it is absurd and insulting of you to suggest that Nelson Mandela was a hunter and not vegan becuause of some of the big animal orgs.Surely you don’t think that Nelson Mandela was not capable of thinking for himself? Please do not use Nelson Mandela as an example to criicize other groups.Talk about ridiculous.

How can I comment when this bullshit website doesn’t let me get the whole show ? You have been uncovered as a saboteur , a fraud , a traitor .