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I loved the conversation you had with Ria!

There is a Polish vegan sausage product line, called ”Bon Vegan”.

I appreciate this special injection episode, Bob.

I’d like to add:

1) Bromelain enhances quercetin. Either in a form of supplements, some quercetn supplements are include bromelain, or, or then pineapple is a good natural source of bromelain.

2) Although most vit D3 supplements available so far are non-vegan, there are many vegan vitamin D3 supplements.

Awesome episode!!Thank you!!

What was the title of the book by Ghandi that Dr. Rao mentioned???
I didn’t quite get the spelling.
Thank You , Bob.

So sad as in no longer with the station or passed away no longer with us?

Hello. I realize this is a very old podcast, however, I need to find his books. What are the titles? Can I get Rynn to speak at a local venue in Redding CA? This area is rampant with Bethel people who have do not support my vegan animal rights campaigns. They mock me mostly.
Can you put him in touch with me (760-412-7284).
Thank you!
I am THRILLED to find Go Vegan Radio!
I also have a mini “documentary” that I would love to share.
4 the animals!!!
Janel Scott

Congratulations on 20 years;
Yep, my journey started 45 years ago, when people had not heard of the concept of vegan;
Animal rights movements can be strangely anti-vegan; Animal sanctuaries, animal lovers and charities will forbid the use of the word vegan in their media for fear of upsetting their donors;
Saving cats while eating pigs makes NO sense; Greenpeace boats sail out full of dead animals.
Lots of scams appearing; Meat industry is fighting back and they have the big bucks; Be the change; Add your voice everyone;
I found you via ffl.org : feeding free vegan meals to kids in need around the world.
We are creating a vegan business camp, with mobile PODCAST studio;
Part of our vegan world tour. Slow travel.
Find us as veganonthemap

okay bob if you are going to delete my criticism then I’m done with your radio show.

Spreading anti-science, anti-mask nonsense is dangerous, harmful, and definitely NOT VEGAN as it actually leads to SUFFERING AND DEATH!

At around 57 minutes in, Linden and Cousins spread anti-mask misinfo in this episode – they are wrong about the virus being too small for masks! The virus particles are not by themselves, rather, when they leave a person’s mouth via breathing or talking or cough or sneezing, they are aerosolized and attached to water particles (we breath out water vapor not naked virus particles) as well as attached to dust particles, etc. Moreover, even if it was just virus particles by themselves (which again, they aren’t), even many of those would get trapped in masks as they bounce through crisscross holes in layers of fabric. Comparing it to mosquitoes flying through a fence like Cousins stated and to which Bob Linden agreed was good analogy, is just not even close to reality. To play off that analogy, it’s like mosquitos attached to balloons (water vapor, dust etc) trying to fly through a multiple layers of fence placed on top of each other.

Masks work and save lives. I don’t know what Facebook meme you got your science from, but you have a responsibility to your audience and the globe, to not spread misinformation like this.

Please take just a moment to learn more about virus particles and masks here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-n-95-filters-not-too-large-stop-covid-19-particles/5343537002/

If you want a deeper dive, check out the Science Friday’s episode where a SCIENTIST who works in a mask testing lab all day every day, is interviewed about why there is a new recommendation to Double Masks (not remove masks!)

Two Masks Are Better Than One

Another misinfo tidbit Cousins mentions is a CDC studies he refers that he says proves masks don’t work. He fails us miserably here as a health advocate. These CDC studies, again in Facebook memes, are interpreted wrongly, for example the CDC study explained clearly: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc-study-exposure-idUSKBN2741WF

The preponderance of evidence shows mask mandates work, great illustration of this here on states that have implemented them: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/21546014/mask-mandates-coronavirus-covid-19

A plea to Bob and his team: At the very very least, if you truly do not know who to believe, (viral Facebook posts vs the preponderance of Scientists), you should err on the side of caution so that you don’t influence someone to become lax about their mask use. If you are wrong, do you really want to be responsible for someone catching Covid-19 and getting hospitalized or infecting their loved ones?

It is truly irresponsible to spread antivax conspiracy theories and misinformation.

You don’t want the audience dying of ignorance or worse, DISINFORMATION.

Side effects are NOT the same SEVERITY as the VIRUS that can be LETHAL and can cause LONG TERM EFFECTS.

It’s a reflex, not an instinct MF 🙂

Dear Bob Linden,

Thank you so much for the Go Vegan Radio !

My name is T. Diane Nguyen. I am the author of a forthcoming book about the Bacteriological War of Covid-19 waged by false democracies to suppress the vegan message and vegan activists. I thought maybe you would like to invite me on your podcast to talk about the book that I wrote with the help of the Vegetarian, Vegan and Freedom movement.

Book Title :

WARNING FOR THE WORLD
World Climate Emergency

The Miracle of the Optimal Vegan Diet and Vegans
Suppressed by
The Hidden Bacteriological War of Covid-19
Waged by False Democracies

Subtitles :
A Memoir & Investigation
Vol. 1/3

Non Fiction – autobiography, memoir

About the author :

T. Diane Nguyen is a peace, human rights, vegan activist, lifestyle medicine advocate, author of three books WARNING FOR THE WORLD, International Secret War Waged by False Democracies. She wrote 16 Golden Reasons to Be a Vegan but a network has waged a war to suppress the truth & tried to kill the author repeatedly. https://tdianenguyen.com : articles & pictures.

About the book
The book reveals the identity of the high-level network of criminals who are waging the bacteriological war of covid-19. It explains who the targets are : the world, vegan activists…It gives the origin of such criminal scheme. The book shows the modus operandi of the network – how they wage the war of covid-19. The book shows the codes the network used, the hidden or cynical ones. Doctors around the world question the official narrative about covid-19 according to Dr. Andrew Kauffman and Dr. Kelly Brogan. Dr. John Pippin of the PCRM explains that in the USA there has been 70 times more deaths from covid-19 than worldwide from SARS 2003, a suspect fact. Vegans do better with covid-19. The book reveals the benefits of going vegan with the 16 Golden Reasons to Be a Vegan. It gives material proofs of the criminal activities of the network : pictures, letters, acknowledgements of receipt, licence plate…
Are the International Criminal Court, the UN’s High Commission of Human Rights, the European Parliament, the European Court of Human Rights, International polices like Interpol, local polices, the local high courts, hospitals, many private companies, the French government – trustworthy ? What about the governements of the USA, the UK, Australia, Canada ?
What are the 4 Golden Reasons to Be a Vegan ? A perfect health, longevity, a fountain of youth, prevention of pandemics. We follow the sages and our ancestors who were vegetarians. There is a world climate emergency. We obtain the greatest strengths, happiness and world peace.

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The vegan diet is a timeless but hidden secret to our best self, the best world, world peace.
On a personal level : nutrition and health experts say the vegan diet gives a perfect health – it prevents, stops, sometimes reverses most of our diseases according to Dr. Michael Greger. It’s a fountain of youth and longevity, beauty, it allows better physical performances, and gives moral, mental, intellectual, spiritual strength.
On a global level, we must urgently and massively take up a predominantly plant-based diet (I add, vegan diet) to prevent catastrophic environmental consequences of global warming and the extinction of humanity, according to 11,000 scientists who signed a report published in the journal BioScience in 2019. I started my activism in 2013, considering global warming and the new information I had learnt about the fact that it was possible for us to be vegetarians from a medical point of view, I then knew by intuition that the world was risking extinction if we continue to eat meat the way we do and more and more meat on Earth as the world population grows. In France, I had observed the land and crops : they were dry. After a few decades, it has rained less and less. The groundwater levels in France are low everywhere. All these are bad signs of an unstopping global warming. It proves that I do have right intuitions about the future, that my voice, as someone who functions like an Oracle of Delphi (rare visions of the future), completely aligns with that of 11,000 scientists, and that it is worth listening to. The World Meteorological Organisation confirms that it’s an emergency. The Club of Rome (1972) did research on collapsology according to vegan journalist Aymeric Caron and scientists explain that a rise in temperature of 44.6°, 7°C by the end of the century would be a catastrophy for future generations, it is where we are heading according to them. The Stockholm International Water Institute explains that by 2050, the world will have to go vegetarian because of a global lack of water.
For example, in India by 2030, people will only have half of the water they need if they do not act. The Sage Sadhguru implemented a program since 2017 called Rally for Rivers which consists in planting at least 2.42 billion trees via agroforestry to give work for farmers, feed thepopulation while at the same time revitalizing the rivers which are the lifelines of India. It is a model program for the revitalization of rivers everywhere in India. In Africa, people have successfully started to follow the same model. We need forests because according to experts, they create rivers in the sky via evapotranspiration.
Forests are cut down in South America and elsewhere to make grazing land for cows or to plant crops for animals to feed European and American people who consume meat.

The Bacteriological War of covid-19 is an International Case on the urgency of veganism for the people and the planet. We must stop the hidden crime against humanity and the global fatal treachery done to hide these truths. We must go for the healing miracle of the optimal vegan diet for ourselves and at the same time secure a future for our children and grandchildren who need a planet that yields crops and has flowing water. We are herbivores-frugivores by nature according to the greatest naturalists (see IVU) : let us follow our Vegan World (R)Evolution.

The network of high-level criminals is perpetrating a hidden crime against humanity, they are waging a secret war gainst the world and the Vegetarian, Vegan and Freedom movement in order to suppress the message of benefits on all levels of the optimal vegan diet for humanity – 677,040 victims. In our opinion, the network has also killed vegetarian, vegan and omnivorous stars in a serial murder to prevent them from influencing their millions of fans and to prevent them from publically supporting the preventive, effective, life-saving medicine of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine founded by Dr. Neal Barnard. They have killed about 180 people among whom were many children in a terrorist attack in Lahore, Pakistan in 2016, in an explosion in Petlawad, India (Bharat) in 2015 to make me stop my activism. They gave encephalopathy to 2,000 babies caused by the pesticides used against the zika virus.
The optimal vegan diet is confirmed by a group of top world health and nutrition experts (the PCRM, Nutrition Facts, Plant Pure Nation …). We, the investigators of this international case, which is one of the greatest scandals of this century, believe that COVID-19 is part of a far-reaching criminal scheme to kill specific vegan activists, doctors, celebrities and other designated victims of the network. Given the abnormally high number of victims of coronavirus in the USA, France, UK, China, we believe that many American, British, French vegetarian, vegan celebrities or people related to the investigation of this case, as well as their relatives, friends and entourage are at great risk of being the victims of the COVID-19 criminal scheme. The criminal network wants to avoid being sued.
The bacteriological war of covid-19 is waged to prevent that the information about the truth of the benefits of the vegan diet be conveyed and would allow a vegan world (r)evolution in all fields : health, personal life ( the best mood, a pacified mind, beauty, strength on all levels, permanent weight loss (see Dr. Michael Greger, Dr. Neal Barnard…), technology (veggie scientists: Tesla (motor of smartphone, Edison (lightbulb, mass communication, the phonograph, motion picture camera…), ecology, culture, in the field of justice…
Originally, this book was intended to be a report, an investigation to be presented to the judges who would take care of the International Case. In my opinion, because no court, on the local, continental and international level agreed to take care of such case for the reason that they might belong to the network of criminals, you are now the judges.

Keynote :
A book about the bacteriological war of covid-19 waged by false democracies to suppress the truth of the miracle of the optimal vegan diet.

Keywords :
Vegan ; peace ; democracy ; humanist ; environment ; covid-19 ; climate

Audience level : adult

Editor : Balboa Press

Copyright : nonfiction

Text of Dust Jacket :

One of Greatest Scandals of this century.
Warning. World Climate emergency. A network of high-level criminals is perpetrating a hidden crime against humanity, they are waging a Secret War against the world and the Vegan and Freedom movement in order to suppress the message of benefits on all levels of the optimal vegan diet for humanity – 677,040 deaths in the world, more than 2,000 babies have suffered from microencephalopathy. The murders were disguised as pseudo-suicides, pseudo-assaults, pseudo-transport accidents, pseudo-terrorist attacks, pseudo-effects of the zika virus, by chemical attack, water poisoning, global harassment and now were perpetrated with the bacteriological war of covid-19… Specific vegan people are targeted : activists, doctors, scientists, celebrities and other designated victims.
The network has also killed vegetarian, vegan stars in a serial murder to prevent them from influencing their millions of fans and to prevent them from publically supporting the preventive, life-saving medicine and critical mission of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine founded by Dr. Neal Barnard.
The optimal vegan diet is confirmed by a group of top world health and nutrition experts (the PCRM, Nutrition Facts, Plant Pure Nation …).
Each of us is responsible for the destiny of humanity. The vegan diet is able to allow a vegan world (r)evolution in all fields : health, personal life, technological, ecological, cultural, in the field of justice, world peace… The march of the world can be changed for the greater good of humanity and its future. We must massively go vegan to prevent the extinction of humanity.

Thank you so much,
Kind regards,
T. Diane Nguyen

Bob: I hope yo are doing well. I have left a few messages for you. Absolutely, unquestionably, factually Vegan Environmentalists are the only Humans saving the Planet.
You R very correct in making the assertion that Humans are specieists that are destroying all Non Humans on the Planet.
Garden of Vegan Hero Statues? Don’t forget to make a statue causes the death of Non Human Insects, rodents and others.
We celebrate the heroes of our movement without with reforestation: Those are our icons of heroism.
Bob: You are one of our heroes even if you drop the microphone now and then.

Good points. Try reading Morris Berman’s “Why America Failed” for a historian’s view of the past 400 years. Notice its title says “FailED”, i.e., already an accomplished fact. It’s over…on to better times, but maybe through some real suffering. Berman is not a “hopey” kind of guy and admits that not many people want to read this book.

Hi Bob: Good Job! Yes I am onboard, but it isn’t only what we eat that is killing us: Our Narcissism, Arrogance, Parasitism, our Planes, our Buildings, our Mines, our Sports, our Logging our Enslavement-Mutilation-Genocide and eating of Non Humans leads us to destroy other Humans. YIKES!

What we need for most of our Species are Vasectomies for Men and Tubal Ligations for Women especially now because we are destroying our Planet.

We need to reduce our population to save our World For All Who Live.

Hi Rachel, Thanks for your kind words. There are quotes that it takes 8500 gallons of water to produce a pound of beef. It has also been said that it takes 8500 gallons of water to produce the grain to produce a pound of beef.
https://vegsource.com/articles2/water_stockholm.htm

AWESOME! GREAT PROGRAM! AMAZING! YOU R RIGHT ON! U WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS THE RADIO ANNOUNCER – REPORTER OF THIS CENTURY! I AM ON BOARD! U ARE THE BEST! I HOPE YOU WILL REACH OUT TO VARIOUS OLD AND NEW COMPANIES! OF COURSE OLD COMPANIES LIKE LOMA LINDA, YVES WOULD BE MOST INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM AS WELL AS NEWER COMPANIES LIKE SOL AND GARDEIN. A MASSIVE HUMAN POPULATION SHIFT TO VEGAN THAT WILL USE LITTLE OR NO OIL PRODUCTS. IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT CARS TRUCKS AN AIRLINES R USING WAY LESS OIL BASED FUELS. OF COURSE THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING RE CLIMATE DESTRUCTION PREVENTION AND TURN AROUND, BUT NOT THE ONE MASSIVE CHANGE THAT WILL SAVE OUR PLANET: GOING VEGAN! OUR VEGAN MOVEMENT IS DOING IT, BUT WILL WE BE IN TIME.

Go vegan!!!

I get it. The Animal Slaughter Chemical Drug Industry will pay any organization to become a promoter of their cause for profit making from the torture, mutilation and genocide of Animals.
The Humane Society and DXE are most definitely provocateurs making themselves rich and looking like they are on the side of our Non Human Brothers and Sisters, when in reality they are Paid Off Whores presenting the confusing Slaughter Chemical Drug Industry Message to eat more flesh and use more drugs made from tortured, mutilated Slaughter Animal Flesh and eat more Animals so Humans get sicker and need more medical doctor and veterinarian doctor initiated treatments made from Slaughter.
Thank you Bob. You are doing an amazing job of explaining what is going on and how another part of this ruze is being perpetrated.
What a horror story! We see this horror story repeated on TV every 5-10 minutes. The churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, newspapers, radio are also repeating this brainwashing message from Hell. Any way they can confuse and misinform the public about the need for their “genocidal products”.
It amazes me that in spite of all our real Animal Liberation – Vegan Movement i still going forward in spite of the insanity and lies.

I can’t vait to join dah Mock Veiner – Pelosi Campaign for 2020. Vhy vait vhen you can send all your monies now. Dis is Arnold signing out: I’ll be back.

We love that Evolution is organic now. In a perfect world, the ingredients would also be veganically grown for even better nutrition.

Bob: You are an amazingly dedicated, intelligent and assertive individual. Go get ‘um! Without People like ourselves, this Planet would be going to Hell in a Handcart. It might still be going to Hell but at least it is slower than it would be.

We have purpose! We won’t give up! I won’t give up! Listen to that song! I won;t give up! It is a great song for our movement!

Hi, This is Dr Malina Fielder, vet and holistic animal nutritionist from Brisbane. I am organizing a workshop “Vegan Dog cooking Classes”, vegans will be instructed about the preparation of a complete and balanced home-made vegan diet for dogs. More info. on my Facebook page “Vet Nutritionist Clinic”.
Event will be held at Animal Wellness Vet Clinic, East Brisbane. I will donate to Go Vegan Radio 25% of the ticket money that are sold with your help.
Regards
Malina

Thanks again for a great show. Many corporate companies for years have been purchasing “natural or organic” brands and companies. For instance Nestle just bought Garden of Life (makes vegan supplements, vitamins, protein powders) in 2018. Cornucopia has a terrific chart showing which corporations own which “natural” brands such as Muir Glen, Annie’s, Odwalla. The sad part is most of these corporations were the one’s who upposed GMO legislation in several states. There ARE still independent brands like Eden, Nature’s Path. This chart below is from 2016 there may be an updated version. namaste’, rachel.

Who Owns Organic

Hi, I just found your website, thanks for the work you do. Your information is interesting but I believe your statistic of 8500 gallons of water to create one pound of cow (beef) is high. From what I have found it takes about 2500 gallons of water. In addition it takes 950 gallons of water to produce one gallon of pus milk and 890 gallons to produce 1 pound of cheese. I agree these amounts are a huge waste of resources, and lives, for humans to eat animals. namaste’, rachel

We also need to reduce human births. We can accomplish this by advocating for a woman’s right to choose. Religions, governments, and state legislation need to stay out of the reproduction arena, and leave that to the woman and her doctor. Reducing births, can also be a big step towards reducing negative impacts on this planet.

I live in a rural area of Lancaster California and we have a lot of rescued animals including a former race horse. I am surrounded by backyard operations including folks who raise pigs, goats, cows, chickens, etc… for food and also, I suspect, backyard breeders. In the eleven years I have been here, I have noticed a decline in the quail, pheasant, horned lark, and other desert animals because of the surge of non indigenous animals here in the high desert. The population of farm animals has risen and so has the population of ravens and rodents who are after the feed. These also decimate the nests and newborns of the other animals adding to the rapid decline. Of course this is just empirical evidence but if I noticed it, it surely must be obvious to others.

👍🏾

Ingrid Newkirk had a documentary and I think it was called, “I Am An Animal”.

Great debate! Thank you for the amazing work and bringing people with different points of views so we clear ours.

hi bob, not sure if its meant to be there, but a whole lot of silence at start of this podcast…

This is awesome. Hello from Carcass Land. You sound great. Now spin some tunes. ( I am now a Reformed Vegan ) Love Peace and Yeah, brother.

A properly done vegan podcast. No surmising, no ranting, no saying um, ah, etc. He is very CONCISE, and everything he says, is relevant info. He says 20x more info because he’s concise. https://www.viva.org.uk/vivapodcast/april-2018-viva-vegan-podcast

So many rhetorical questions. He says something, you repeat what he says, and he says “exactly” because it’s rhetorical. Rude to plug the radio station in the middle of the conversation. Also rude to have the yappy dog interrupt when he’s talking. He needs to tell his story, without constant interruptions! GOSH, it’s soooooooooo hard to get the whole story, with all the – surmising.

Oh, you feel? So you said? Oh you mean… all the disgusting animal corpses, ridden with rant, rant, rant.. the nice things..suggestion…it’s violent. What UH, the UM, AH, so AH, UM, and so UH, This is not an interview, it’s a guessing game. And, um, AH, so AH, and so your customers were unhealthy were they? Massive switching to random topics. Why don’t you stop interrupting and come up with interview points to ask him. Start with an introduction. Today we are interviewing (insert name here) a pig farmer from Sweden. He’ll be talking about his journey to vegan enlightenment. Don’t keep asking rhetorical questions. So you’re a pig farmer? Yes. Are you a humane pig farmer? Yes. So you use humane methods? You keep trying to summarize his thoughts, opinions, etc. Rater than having the interview point led. WHY are you talking to him? Did he quit pig farming? So your saying? Obviously, if you go stock free (no livestock, no manures), wwwwwhat do you use then. Obviously, if you’d let him talk, the fertilizers would not be animal based, so the other options, are chemical based, mineral based, or plant based, including cover crops aka green “manure”. Yea! I FINALLY find out the pig farmer has gone livestock free and is a veggie only grower!

All you had to say was “November’s coming soon, and we all know what that means….THANKSGIVING DINNER. So, what can vegans do, on this traditionally un vegan holiday dinner?? 1. Go before or after the traditional feast. 2. grin & bear eating at the traditional table, and just pick out any vegan offerings. 3. don’t go at all. 4. invite guests to your house for a vegan Thanksgiving. 5. invite guests to dine at your favorite vegan restaurant. 6. Any other options? Talking about these would be constructive, and helpful, not ranting on about ham, wwhich is not helpful to a vegan, who already destests it. Traditional omnivoures, will usually not be swayed to change, especially by someone ranting on and seeming more like a lunitic than a vegan advocate.

Why can’t radio hosts GET TO THE POINT??? Why can’t they be concise. No one listening to a vegan radio station, is going to eat a ham dinner anyway!I can’t listen and I’m vegan. There’s waaaaay too much rambling!!

Hi Bob, just signed up on Patreon, thanks for your time and dedication to the cause, say hello to Daisy.

So confused!!
Radio Announcer, plz reply.

With new ballot initiative by HSUS for 2018, it is trying to CONTINUE the Prop 2. Yes, it continues cages, I think, but allows for bigger cages I think. So, is that better than nothing? Are should we fight this initiate hard…but then do what, if it’s defeated?

Also, I know the Prop 2 (passed in 2008) has really not worked much at all for the animals (very very sad) cuz they ignored the cage deadline of 2015. Now, sense this true (ie: the egg industry got their way)…then why, if not mistaken, were the egg and meat factory farms SO MUCH OPPOSING Prop 2…if it actually helped the egg and meat industry anyway?? Thanks!
plz write to kevsage@hotmail.com with subject: REPLY ON HSUS

I guessing you are a radio station in Berkeley??? From UCB back in 69.Really crowded in East Bay, I think it more congested with people than over in SF bay.

This is a very interesting discussion for all those who want to find out more about the positions of DXE and Wayne Hsiung. I am sorry that the second part, that was discussed, never happened, as Wayne Hsiung had scheduling conflicts.

Hope this gets off the ground Bob.. Hold the Vision
will you be charging admission?

Thank you for your heroic commentary Bob. It is no coincidence that I could never get an answer from Paul Shapiro as to where all the “rescued” Animals from Florida to Puerto Rico were going to be “sheltered”. I am sure that they were going to be happily euthanized when they were being thrown into the Rendering Plant Grinders for Pet Food and Animal Feed. Like PETA, most if not all Animals that are “rescued” by these organizations “happily” get placed in the grinders of a Rendering Plant where they they “gratefully” become food for other Animals. We live in a very sick World and people that believe in these organizations like being duped into believing that the holocaust that is taking place is not really happening at all because fake organizations like HSUS are “taking care” of the Animals. WTF? Really? The HSUS Story is a continuum of the insanity that pervades the very sick uneducated perspective of the US Public. If it weren’t for the Animal Liberation-Vegan Movement and People like ourselves this tragedy would continue without any end in sight. The saddest part is that so many Non Humans are still tragically dying in the most heinous of circumstances and the Public for the most part refuses to open their eyes.
To give you an idea of what our Animal Liberation – Vegans are dealing with, last week in St. Paul, MN, our Co. Evolution Pet Food sponsored the showing of “What The Health” at the beautiful 505 Wabasha St. I-Max Theater in the Scientology Building on Feb. 14th and then “Pet Fooled” on Feb. 18th. I worked for an entire month putting up posters, giving out flyers, e-mails to local AR “Vegan” Groups and very few People showed up for this these amazing FREE events. Is it any wonder that People like ourselves feel like pulling our hair out? I think I’ll have to go out and buy a Donald Trump Hair Piece at Hair-R-Us for $2.99 or something like that.

There is a problem in animal rights movement: no unity in action, there is no global action. And the money from donations, where it is going? To major AR organizations, not for the projects.

Even with Pacelle (officially) gone, his enablers remain in firm control and a culture of secrecy and corruption still looms at the top of HSUS. Also, keep in mind that when Pacelle supposedly “left” the Fund for Animals, he still remained in control via his handpicked executive staff and board members. That dynamic still exists at HSUS with Mike Markarian, Holly Hazard, Heidi Prescott, Josh Balk and all the board members who voted to shut down the sexual harassment investigation and to keep Pacelle in place.

Wayne Pacelle’s misconduct at HSUS goes far beyond sexual harassment allegations. He has, as a matter of routine, lied about his accomplishments and used charitable resources to publicize false claims that elevated his stature and fostered the kind of hero worship that has been so pervasive. This put the women he interacted with at a tremendous disadvantage when considering whether or not to report inappropriate behavior. His fabricated victories enabled his predatory ways by attracting followers and by insulating him from accountability and exposure.

Pacelle generated tremendous publicity for himself when he announced a legislative deal with United Egg Producers, which he claimed would “outlaw battery cages nationwide.” In reality, that deal would have kept laying hens confined inside egg factory cages in perpetuity.

Facing litigation that included charges of bribery, money laundering, and obstruction of justice (a check signed by Pacelle was apparently used to pay a witness who had repeatedly lied under oath), HSUS settled a massive RICO lawsuit by paying the owners of Ringling Brothers Circus millions of dollars of charitable donations that should have been used to protect animals. That’s in addition to all the money in legal fees that were paid out. This use of charitable dollars – to cover the improper conduct of Pacelle and other executive staff – was not unlike the misuse of funds used to essentially buy the silence of women allegedly sexually harassed at HSUS.

Details here: https://www.hfa.org/pdf/Corruption-RICO_Lawsuit-HSUS.pdf

In the biggest blunder in animal rights history, Pacelle squandered over $10 million dollars on Proposition 2, the botched 2008 initiative that resulted in millions of laying hens being subjected to more than nine years (and counting) of preventable cage confinement. Nevertheless, Pacelle’s continuously repeated claim that he had “outlawed” battery cages in California has been his biggest claim to fame. Pacelle and the egg industry have now introduced yet another ballot initiative in California. This new initiative would declare battery cages legal in California for additional years and would forever allow the egg industry to provide hens with as little as one square foot of floor space per bird.

Details here: https://www.hfa.org/legalizing-california-battery-cages.html

None of the above would have been possible without the complicity of the HSUS executive staff and members of the board of directors. Just as Pacelle provided cover for Paul Shapiro, HSUS’s senior staff and board members have covered for Pacelle’s behavior. There needs to be a clean sweep.

This episode is an example (of many) why I’ll never join a vegan group, or engage in vegan activism. Every vegan group hates every other vegan group, and nobody is “pure enough.” I can’t stand to be around people like that.

great discussion gentleman!

Great Answer Bob: I am promoting your Radio Programs now at our new Meet Up Group in Richfield MN. It is called Richfield Vegans and we explain the importance of your Go Vegan Radio.com and Radio Bobby.com to all group repeatedly.
We will also stress the importance of the Weiner – Pelosi Campaign 2020 and to start wearing W-P Campaign Buttons and for People to donate all their hard earned cash immediately to this “vital ponzi scheme”.
I am telling our group to go down the street preparing People for W-P by screaming Weiner – Pelosi 2020 at every one they see. Think of all the votes we can mustard…I mean muster.
OK…I am only kidding about the W-P Campaign and Bob is an amazing talk show host and investigative reporter.

but if you say so often that animal agriculture is the first reason for climate change, and everyone stops eating cows today, are you going to blame all the cows tomorrow for climate problems and demand they all be slaughtered?! reasons why you should have honest podcasts.